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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Nostalgia? In The Beginning ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 06, 2023, 07:17:50 PM »
Nicholas Harmon, Dunkirk - ‘the Necessary Myth’ [Jove Books, 1990]
Epigraphs ...
(a) ‘ So long as the English tongue survives, the word (“) Dunkerque (“) [a French form of the English ‘Dunkirk’] will be spoken with reverence. For in that harbo(u)r, in such a hell as never blazed on earth before, at the end of a(lmost) lost battle, the rags and blemishes that have hidden the soul of democracy fell away. ... This shining thing in the souls of free men Hitler cannot command, or stain, or conquer. ... It is the great tradition of democracy. It is the future. It is victory. ‘ - New York Times, 1st June 1940.
(b) ‘...
So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.’
Shakespeare, sonnet 18.
(c) “Personally I feel happier now that we have no more allies to be polite to & to pamper.” ‘King’ (sic!) George, letter to ‘mother’ 270640 ...
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‘Dunkirk ... will do as a symbol of the transformation of a continent. ...’
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Nostalgia? In The Beginning ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 06, 2023, 12:54:00 PM »
... they/we/one/... etc ... were ‘al(l)ways looking for some ‘new angle’’ ... 2  get 1-over some-one \ some-‘thing’/ some-system ‘up’ ‘above’ some ‘other’ ... “hoo-ray4our-side!’ (sic/‘sick’) “ ... never mind ... p.x.
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Nostalgia? In The Beginning ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 06, 2023, 12:25:01 PM »
... so ... the ‘controversial’ (&  ‘late’) Bishop of Durham visited ‘my father’s’ (does anyone ‘really’ have ‘ownership’ over ‘possessive apostrophe’s’?!) ... visited St Mary’s (cOFe school), TyneDock, s.shields in the late’80s/early90s ... & he said to my mother:’ I believe in Angels ... !
What the ‘controversial’ BofD & my mother (a good-faithed E/evangelgical c/Christian) meant by ‘angels’ possibly ‘differed’ quite (‘quiet’?!)  a lot ... but ... they were more or less on the ‘samehymnsheet’ ... & she said 2 me: ... he is a ‘good man’...
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Nostalgia? In The Beginning ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 04, 2023, 11:51:34 AM »
... & ‘often’ ‘I(.)T(.)’ seemed to me to ‘boil down’/2b an ‘inter-play’ between ‘PAT(t)ERNING’ & ‘Drama(tiz/sing-Ing)’ ...
In ‘patterning’ you/I/1/many/whom.what(So)ever strived/strove to ‘make’ order/harmony ...
... [which was,perhaps, ‘too orderly’?!] ...
In ‘dramatis/zing’ 1/(2/too?) many strove/strived for/‘revel’d in ... ‘difference’/dis-order ...  dis-harmony ...
... [which was, per-haps, ‘mere chaos/K’os?!?} ...
...
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Nostalgia? In The Beginning ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 04, 2023, 10:53:22 AM »
So ... Roger,Maddy,Family,Comrades&ManyOthers... were (still) Communists [aka ‘working-class/proletarian (‘over’?) Romantizers’] ... while I was a ‘bourgeois individualist’/‘libertariansocialist’/‘anarchist’/whatever ...
We were considered ‘ancient enemies’ [Consider how communists & anarchists F’d up CivilWarinSpain between them/their’differences’ ... giving ‘victory’ (albeit ‘temporary’) to Franco/Fascists ... before the ww2 (not ‘necessary’?) global ‘holocaust’ ...].
But ... we seemed to get along well enough these days ... & were ‘united’ by belief/believes in ‘A WORLD WITHOUT WAR’ ...
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Nostalgia? In The Beginning ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 04, 2023, 09:40:52 AM »
Ref: Hogarth, Time Smoking a Picture; quoting Strobaeus, “Time is not a great craft-person ... it ‘weakens all it touches ...” [Perhaps it WAS ‘merely’ ... one ‘damned’ cigarette after another! ... {Were cigarettes ‘sublime’?!}]
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Notes towards a new anti-war 'epic' ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 03, 2023, 04:05:59 PM »
& you/one/I/i .. looked at/  :-\ considered the ‘wider’ scheme of things ... & I/i/1/you thought: ‘...’ ?!
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Notes towards a new anti-war 'epic' ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 03, 2023, 03:54:20 PM »
NoOne could say: I was first2345... with ms.s.f. No ‘insult’ 2 her ... With Catherine ‘it’ was different ... I saw the ‘blood’ of the ‘first time’ not coming ... but then again ... she could be transformed into \ travestied as a ‘bad.faith’d bastard’ ....
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Notes towards a new anti-war 'epic' ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 03, 2023, 08:49:52 AM »
[waste-land ‘stuff’ ...]
Lines 31-34: Eliot’s note refers ‘us’ [the ‘readers’] to the libretto of ‘Tristan & Isolde’ ... opera by Richard Wagner {1813-1883}. A ‘traveller’ is singing about a ‘sweet-heart’ he has left behind: “The wind blows fresh to the home-land. My Irish girl/lady, where are you lingering?”
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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Notes towards a new anti-war 'epic' ...
« Last post by Phil Talbot on December 01, 2023, 04:55:12 PM »
[‘Dear’] John Milton [ParadiseRegained, 3, 387ff]:
Much ostentation vain of fleshy arm,
And fragile arms, much instruments of war,
Long in preparing, soon to nothing brought,
Before my eyes thou has sent; and in our ear
Vented much polity, and projects deep
Of enemies, of aids, battles and leagues,
Plausible to the world, to me worth nought.
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