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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on February 12, 2025, 03:29:56 PM »

The British Establishment at/@ that time [2003] included:
+ 'senior' (sic) cabinet ministers;
+ 'senior' (sic) mp's, of most parties;
+ 'senior' (sic) military commanders;
+ 'senior' (sic) diplomats;
+ 'senior' (sic) mainstream journalists - such as tax/licence funded BBC 'senior' (sic) political correspondents & editors (who should have had a 'duty' to inform the public properly as to the 'legal status' of wars the country gets involved in, but which in this case they demonstrably did not);
+ 'senior' ... (to say nothing of 'junior' etc. etc ... most of whom remained shamefully silent ...)
 

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on February 12, 2025, 03:26:23 PM »

The British Establishment at/@ that time [2003] included:
+ 'senior' (sic) cabinet ministers;
+ 'senior' (sic) mp's, of most parties;
+ 'senior' (sic) military commanders;
+ 'senior' (sic) diplomats;
+ 'senior' (sic) mainstream journalists - such as tax/licence funded BBC 'senior' (sic) political correspondents & editors (who should have had a 'duty' to inform the public properly as to the 'legal status' of wars the country gets involved in, but which in this case they demonstrably did not);
+ 'senior' ... (to say nothing of 'junior' etc. etc ... all of whom remained shamefully silent ...)
 

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on February 12, 2025, 03:04:43 PM »

In fact, the entire British Establishment knew the attack on Iraq in2003 was 'wrong and illegal'.

In fact, the entire legal department of the U.K. Foreign Office told, prior to events , the government in 2003 that that attack/invasion was (going to be) ILLEGAL [There was/is Conclusive evidence of this to the official 'Iraq Inquiry'].

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on February 12, 2025, 02:55:46 PM »

It is rare to hear/witness those among the 'power elite' (sic) to admit they did wrong/something illegal. When they do most of those who do know they are so low down in the 'pecking order' of 'responsibility' that they will never be called to account for their wrong-doing.

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on February 12, 2025, 02:42:15 PM »

Some present &/or former New Labour MPs have admitted they voted in favour of the attack on Iraq in 2003 knowing it to be 'illegal' [according to standard conventions of international law]. {i could 'name names' but won't, for reasons of  'decorum'] In other words: they knew it was wrong; they knew it was illegal; but they did it nevertheless.

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on February 05, 2025, 10:38:09 PM »

The 'war on terror' might be ['better'?] defined as:
+ a profitable racket for the arms and 'security' (sic) corporations;
+ a violent exercise in paranoid fantasy;
+ a costly episode in outmoded cultural and economic imperialism;
+ a terrible distraction from financial crises and corruption in 'high' (sic) places;
+ a horrible waste of lives, time, money ... and human potential ...

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on February 05, 2025, 10:23:02 PM »

The Stop the War movement was set up / 'born' more than 20 years ago to oppose the so-called 'war on terror' - a concept that seemed to others and myself a nonsensical 'contradiction in terms' from the start ...

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on January 30, 2025, 04:52:51 PM »

In a free and open society we are all 'responsible' for the people we call our 'leaders'.

In a truly 'democratic' society, we lead our so-called 'leaders' - not them us.

Today, and every day, we acknowledge our individual 'responsibility' to lead our leaders towards creating a society in which the 'bulk' of Humanity seems to want to live ... a society that lives up to the possibilities of human potential ... and in which no one has to live in states of terror, fear, violence, and [literal and/or metaphorical] poverty ...

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on January 30, 2025, 04:29:56 PM »

We continue to recognize all FellowHumanBeings ... as Brothers&Sisters ... in a human 'endeavour' [=(to) try earnestly/effort] ...
that transcends politics, nationality, religious affiliation, what{so}ever ... and is 'everywhere' & 'nowhere' ... and every 'little' bite/bit in between ... And which/witch was 'central' to war/wor co-eXistence ...

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South Tyneside Stop the War / Re: Stopping Yesterday's Wars Today and Tomorrow ...

« Last post by Phil Talbot on January 30, 2025, 04:10:50 PM »

We continue to acknowledge our fellowship with all those people affected by violence and war.